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In Washington, Stickney Confirms the Obvious

Submitted by David Hart on Mon, 11/02/2009 - 16:08

Larry StickneyAccording to  the National Organization for Marriage, gays should be perfectly content with the separate but equal  status afforded by civil unions. That theme was promoted in California's Proposition 8 contest and is now being asserted in Maine's Question One campaign. The cynical underlying motif is an attempt to convey the idea that opponents to marriage equality aren't hateful bigots and have nothing against gay people. They merely want to limit the "sacred" covenant of marriage to one man and one woman. It seems perfectly obvious that those who are now proponents of Question One — which would strip Maine's gay taxpayers of the right to marry — are not in favor of civil unions or anything, for that matter, that gives legal status to gays. The real agenda is to prevent anything that might officially affirm the acceptance of homosexuality.

Washington state's referendum 71 makes this all too clear. If approved by the voters, Referendum 71 would convey the right for gay couples to form civil unions that are equal to marriage in most respects. Essentially Referendum 71 takes God and religion out of the equation; substituting a contract for vows and lawyers for clergy. Opponents to Ref. 71 are the usual suspects — fundamentalist Christians. Opponents to marriage equality and, in this case,  civil unions, are unable to formulate a cogent argument that either has any negative effect on traditional marriage. In Washington, the anti-gay argument is simple; These civil unions are just like marriage and voters do not favor gay marriage. In other words, they are using a religious argument to oppose unions that have no religious connotations.

In today's OneNewsNow, the leader of the opposition to Ref. 71, Larry Stickney, head of the Christianist Washington Values Alliance says that Christian voters may be decisive factor.

"If people in the state of Washington understand that it is ultimately marriage, then we'll win this election," he predicts, "because the people in Washington do not want homosexual marriage."

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"Pray around the country, please, for us, and that people vote in droves," he urges. "If we can turn out the Christian vote, we'll win this thing easily."
 
But getting believers to the polls is not a given, he says. "That's always the challenge...to get our Christians and our church-goers out to vote," Stickney laments, "but here's an issue that they definitely need to and want to weigh in on."

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Submitted by Chickadeedee (not verified) on Mon, 11/02/2009 - 22:44.

I don't understand why when a Christian diaagrees with a homosexual, it is absolute hatred. But when a homosexual disagrees with a Christisan, it is O.K. Everybody has a right to their opinion and has a right to disagree with someone about anything you can bring up. And no one has a right to accuse someone of a hate crime just because they disagree with them. And don't hide behind "No, it won't be that way." Because we all already know that that is the way it already is in Canada and Holland and some other countries that have adopted this law! And I don't hate homosexuals, I just don't agree with them. They can live any way they want to, but don't try to jam it down my throat. The American way is the majority vote wins. But they try to go in the back door and get some activist judge to arbitrarily make it a law.

May the best man win!!!


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Submitted by iantoCross (not verified) on Mon, 11/02/2009 - 23:57.

Because, Chikadeedee, when the christian disagrees with a gay person, it usually takes away the gay person's civil rights-- the right to marry, to inherit, to adopt, to see their partner in the hospital, to obtain joint insurance, to be treated as equal, etc.  When a gay person disagrees with a christian, it does not take away the christian's rights-- the christian can still go on thinking that being gay is evil and a sin.

christians like YOU are JAMMING your beliefs down our throats!  you are using religion to justify issues that are purely CIVIL, before the law-- not before any church!

get it?  shame on you for attempting to limit civil rights!


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Submitted by Guest (not verified) on Wed, 11/04/2009 - 17:44.

iantoCross -- EXCELLENT response.  Thank you.  I plan to use that logic with some of the narrow-minded, so-called "Christians" that I encounter. 


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Submitted by Adam in Spokane (not verified) on Mon, 11/02/2009 - 22:34.

America is full of hatred    Religious hatred.   From Christians no less.  We believe, and our church believes that the haters in the name of God - well, God must be letting contracts for the enlargement of hell.


Perhaps He will excuse those who were duped, and failed to use the brain God gave them.  But for the leaders - our own slick willie Taliban Christians -  Hell awaits you baby.  Better go to the fire station and find out what sort of flame proof clothes they have.

 

 


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Submitted by Dina (not verified) on Mon, 11/02/2009 - 21:38.

I hate that asshats like are the most visible Christians that seem to define the rest - the loving, queer-friendly (and even queer!) Christians I know would be so sad to think they get lumped into this same category.

Also, people seem to forget that Jesus told his followers to "render unto Caesar what is Caesar's"....


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Submitted by Guest (not verified) on Mon, 11/02/2009 - 18:02.

There is no love like Christian hate.


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